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What have you been the most naive about?

Posted on Dec 8th, 2008 by Azyh : Gratitude in Action Azyh
This is in Response to the Questions and Reflections for December 08, 2008:

sexual relationships

if only i knew more about the difference between lust and love
what makes a loving sexual relationship?
the answer to me is gold
please share your wisdom!


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14 minutes later
richDUCK said

wow! BRAVO for your putting it right out there, my friend

TadHead : Seeker of Truth
about 4 hours later
TadHead said

Some thing I am struggling with also. So far I think the difference is in the intent. Do you, or the other person, want sex for your benifit or the benifit of your partner? The way to make love is with two people dedicated to learning how to please the other mentaly, physicaly, and spiritualy. Another way to get around lust is to bring your Higher Power (what ever you worship)into the sexual relationship. Ask the question, how does my sexual relationship better serve my Higher Power? Other than immediate pleasure, what good will come from my sexual relationship?

Ash : Butterfly
about 5 hours later
Ash said

Tadhead………

Wouldn’t you want to decide to be sexual because you ALREADY see value in that exchange then HOPE value comes later? Just a thought

about 5 hours later
richDUCK said

as much as i would LOVE to argue against your point, Ash, i am inclined to agree with here. But only becuase that IS reality when it comes to a spontaneous situation with the sex involved. i’m sure we could all argue the pros & cons of such an attittude, but, hey, who of you stands with the “I’d never” attittude with that there? Me? I’m (contwently) married, & value our relationship FAR too much to jeopordize it with such. And i respect and LOVE Stpeh too much to go there. But, that’s getting off on a tangent there. point is, yes, intent IS MY desire in ALL things (i’m BIG on “Intent, NOT content). What I HAd typed first but somehow didn’t make it onto the blog comment of mine earlier, is that i believe the difference between lust & love is that lust is about taking, gain for self, where as love is about giving, doing for another with taking one’s one self gratification entirely out of the picture.

TadHead : Seeker of Truth
about 8 hours later
TadHead said


That is exactly what I was trying to say, richDuck, thanks for putting it so simply.


Ash….I definitely want to be sexual and I see the value from my standpoint, but when another person is involved it is not enough to HOPE value comes later. Hoping is the start but action must take place for the hope to become a reality. Sometimes the action can be as simple as communicating but sometimes it gets complicated by the other person not really knowing what they want or what is good for them in the long run. The differences between male and female and between person to person complicate things even more but hey, if it were too easy it wouldn’t be fun.


Much Love Ya’ll!

Alluvja :  Love In Action
about 11 hours later
Alluvja said

You asked…….only i knew more about the difference between lust and lovewhat makes a loving sexual relationship?

To me it’s real simple: the intention of the hearts involved.

about 22 hours later
richDUCK said

so beautifully put, Alluya!

Azyh : Gratitude in Action
about 24 hours later
Azyh said

Thank you all for sharing your beautiful words on this.

I need to define this
shape the wording of it clearly

too long has this been hidden and silent and secret

let it out in the light of our divine attention

i think i was originally thinking of that particular moment where i was over come with emotional waves of lust that i had no idea what i was doing or committing myself to. i was stunned by physical symptoms and called them love.

maybe just knowing this about myself has lifted the naive label?

intentions are one thing, i do like intentions
though i think i put more trust in actions

congruency of action to intention is something i have yet to witnessed in a sexual relationship. and as i write this i realise this says more about me then the partners in my life.

i am the one that needs to have that congruency of action and intent.
i am the one that needs to define clearly the difference between lust and love

i have simply betrayed only myself by hiding my thoughts on this and keeping it secret

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